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Journal of the Slovene Association of LSP Teachers
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Jonathan Clifton
Combining Conversation Analysis and Reflective Practice in the LSP Classroom: Putting Transcripts of Business Simulations under the Microscope
ABSTRACT
Conversation analysis (CA) has undoubtedly established its credentials as a method for studying (workplace) interaction yet, despite this observation, the insights that CA offers to LSP instructors have not been fully exploited in the classroom. This paper firstly suggests that combining CA and reflective practice can lead to a synergy that would be beneficial to teaching practice and, secondly, this paper describes how this synergy can be implemented in a classroom context for students of business communication. Findings indicate that combining CA and reflective practice can be a viable pedagogic proposition.
Keywords: conversation analysis, reflective practice, meetings, pedagogy.
1. Introduction
Since Drew and Heritage’s (1992) seminal work ‘Talk at Work’, conversation analysis
(CA) has become an increasingly popular tool with which to analyze workplace interaction.
Yet, despite this interest in CA as a tool for investigating workplace interaction,
so far, few insights from CA researchers have filtered down into the LSP classroom
in a way that provides teaching strategies which can help students improve their
communication skills. This relative reticence to apply CA to learning is not unsurprising
given CA’s traditional stance of ‘indifference’ whereby researchers refrain from
passing critical judgment on the interaction. Furthermore, CA’s complex terminology
and concentration on the minutia of talk may, at first sight, be off putting and
seem to have little relevance to the ‘real world.’ On the other hand, the relative
lack of uptake of CA in the classroom is surprising given CA’s research focus on
the observation of naturally-
The purpose of this paper is to argue that combining CA and reflective practice is
one way of exploiting CA’s potential for LSP instruction. This paper, therefore,
describes and evaluates an LSP course which was designed for pre-
This paper is divided into three parts. First, theoretical considerations of CA, reflective practice, and their complementarity are discussed. Second, my own attempt to apply CA and reflective practice to a classroom setting is discussed. Third, using feedback from students and my own assessment of their work, combining CA and reflective practice in the classroom is evaluated. Finally, conclusions and observations are offered.
2. Theoretical background
2.1. Conversation analysis
Conversation analysis was developed by Harvey Sacks and colleagues in the late 1960s
and can be described as, the fine-
Moreover, Sacks was not only interested in the structure of language per se, he was
also interested in what the language was doing (Sacks, 1984: 24). The fine-
2.2. Reflective practice (and management)
Since industrialization, management has increasingly come to be regarded as a form
of human engineering which is based on a science of work (e.g. Taylor, 1967). In
this paradigm, the manager’s role is considered to be that of a technician whose
job is to apply the latest scientifically based principles of management to workplace
practice. If, as LSP trainers, we accept this view, our role is thus to transmit
prescribed communicative competencies that are commensurate with the latest theories
of communication which are then (hopefully) applied in practice. As Schön (2000:
27) states, within this paradigm of technical rationality, “the rule is: first the
relevant basic and applied science; then the skills of application to the real-
However, the scientific model of management is challenged by many researchers who
consider that management is more craft than science (e.g. Mintzberg, 2004). If this
stance is taken seriously, then the craft-
Schön (2000: 241) defines reflective practice as the “on-
More specifically, then, in relation to the course described in this paper, the students
were introduced to the communicate, evaluate and develop (CED) model of reflective
practice that Jones and Stubbe (2004) set out. In this model, participants were first
asked to communicate, then to evaluate their talk and identify any areas where improvements
could be made, and finally to generate strategies for implementing such improvements.
In my case, communication was generated through the simulation of a business meeting,
reflection was stimulated through transcription and fine-
2.3. The complementary nature of CA and reflective practice
Whilst CA has traditionally worked from a stance of indifference inherited from its
ethnomethodological roots, this position is being increasingly challenged. Ten Have,
for example, has used the term applied conversation analysis by which he means
that CA-
Housley and Fitzgerald (2000), though, explicitly argue that CA and reflective practice
are complementary because practitioners could be trained to carry out fine-
Yet, despite the theoretical compatibility, to my knowledge, there are few accounts of the successful combination of CA and reflective practice. Furthermore, the overall failure of CA to link up with reflective practice is surprising since reflection on workplace interaction has been successfully combined with other forms of linguistic analyses (e.g. Jones and Stubbe 2004). And, moreover, the analysis of transcripts of interaction has been used successfully in the classroom (e.g. Zhu 2007). In what follows, my attempt to combine CA with reflective practice is set out.
3. Practical application
3.1. The course outline
The part of the course described in this paper consisted of only seven lessons (14 hours teaching time) and was designed to encourage student reflection upon their own communicative practices in meetings.
The format of the course was as follows:
• an introduction to the basic notions of conversations analysis and transcription techniques
• a business simulation
• an analysis of the interaction
• feedback and debriefing
I also asked the students to write an anonymous one-
3.2. Introduction to conversation analysis
First, students were introduced to the rudiments of conversation analysis. This part
of the course was based around the material provided on Charles Antaki’s website1
which gives an excellent introduction to CA and which also provides transcription
exercises using video-
The second phase of the introduction to CA involved using transcripts of genuine business meetings taken from my own collection. The students were led through the analysis of some transcripts and were introduced to the practical application of CA to genuine business interaction. Students were also given key readings which typified the use of CA as a tool for uncovering the machinery of talk in workplace interaction (e.g. Asmuß and Svennevig, 2009). The students were instructed to read these articles at home and then the following lessons involved the discussion of some of the themes of the articles.
3.3. The simulation
The simulation that I asked the students to perform was a decision-
3.4. The analyses
As previously stated, the students were taught the rudiments of transcription and
they were asked to transcribe a small part of the simulation that they found ‘interesting.’
First, considering how long it takes to make a fine-
3.5. The debriefing
The debriefing took place in two phases: peer review and a plenary session. Since
I was working with a fairly large group of around 40 students, the first part of
the debriefing was done as a form of peer review whereby students discussed their
work with each other in small groups. This was then followed by a plenary session
for the whole class in which one of the students from each simulation-
4. Evaluation
The evaluation that follows is resolutely qualitative: using a synthesis of data culled from the students’ assessment of the course, it is designed, on the one hand, to give voice to the students and, on the other hand, the evaluation consists of my own reflections on the course qua course instructor. Experimental design to test the ‘effectiveness’ of this approach compared to other approaches was not considered since I do not intend to play one approach to language learning off against another but, rather, to highlight the possibilities and potentials of combining CA with reflective practice.
4.1. Evaluation: the student analyses
Students were required to write an analysis of their transcript and to suggest ways
in which their own communicative skills could be improved. These assignments revealed
that they were able to produce adequate transcripts which located examples of the
‘machinery of talk.’ Moreover, most of the analyses not only located examples of
the machinery of talk but also provided an account of what this machinery was doing.
For example, one student noted how the use of formulations can be a powerful tool
for arriving at decisions and closing down topics. The student remarked that his
analysis “illustrates the importance of formulations. Up to line 13 there is no real
consensus but, on account of the formulation (line 13) which summarizes what Alex
was trying to say, we can see how some kind of agreement, which led to a decision,
is being done.” Conversely, another student noted that the lack of formulations in
their simulation meant that they wasted time by ‘going round in circles.’ This observation,
derived from the fine-
Furthermore, some students also linked the use of formulations with leader identity and drew attention to the way in which identities are realized in talk. As one student noted, “a good leader of a business meeting should, therefore, be able to make strong formulations that really make clear what has been decided and close topic. He can use language (e.g. formulations) in such a way as will construct, confirm, and reinforce his identity as leader.”
Overall, the assignments revealed that students were able to: analyze the transcripts using CA; reflect upon their practice; and come up with suggestions for improvement. To leave the students with the last word, as one of them concluded: “before I attended these conversation analysis lectures, I didn’t really pay attention to what was going on during conversations but now I know that there is more going on than just sound coming out of people’s mouths and conversation analysis has made me more aware of the effects of language. Words can do things and perform actions. I will certainly start using some of the techniques that I uncovered in this transcript. I am sure that it will help me become a better communicator in the future.”
4.2. Evaluation: the students’ assessment of the course
The student assessments showed that the main ‘complaint’ was the time spent acquiring
the basics of CA. As one of the students commented, “mere CA is less useful regarding
our professional possibilities at the end of the year” and another doubted the “practical
use in endlessly analyzing texts.” However, despite the criticisms concerning the
time spent on learning transcription techniques and basic CA, the students began
to see the value of this: “after the third or fourth lesson I was beginning to see
the light. I gained more insight into the structure of conversation. I was actually
trying to see what was really going on in those conversations (machinery of talk).”
Students also alluded to the potential pay-
Conclusions and observations
As the student evaluations above illustrate, CA can be combined with reflective practice
in the classroom and through a close analysis of the ‘machinery’ of talk students
can increase their awareness of what is going on (what actions are being performed)
in business interaction and their knowledge of how this is achieved. The benefits
of such an approach to learning are fourfold. First, because learning is based on
the students’ own experience it is more meaningful and thus more likely to be acted
upon and retained when they enter the workplace. As Jones and Stubbe (2004: 197)
argue, “practitioners learn most usefully and powerfully when they guide the inquiry
and the values that inform it.” Second, rather than providing students with a decontextualized
science of management that is then applied to practice, reflective practice provides
the students with context sensitive skills that they can take with them into the
workplace. Moreover, implementation is built into the process of reflective practice
since the students will gain insights derived from their own communicative practice
as they participate in it. Third, drawing inspiration from humanistic teaching paradigms,
reflective practice places the student at the center of the learning process and,
rather than adopting a passive ‘jugs into mugs’ transmission style of learning, the
students are asked to take a more active, and thus fulfilling, role in the learning
process. Fourthly, as regards business meetings, Schwartzman (1989) has noted that
popular management literature, since it is rarely based on any direct observation
of meetings, maybe be promoting folk theories of meeting talk. This, for example,
can be seen in Williams’ (1988) observation that the language of meetings taught
in English language textbooks bears little resemblance to that used in actual business
meetings. Consequently, rather than being taught practices that may be removed from
actual talk in real business meetings, students may have a better pay-
Finally, the research presented in this paper, deals with the use of CA as a tool
to aid reflective practice for pre-
1 Available at: http://www-
2 Available at: http://www.bized.co.uk/learn/business/strategy/decision/index.htm
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